NITROUS OXIDE ( nos / n2o ) advice forum

Approx. 30 years ago I designed and manufactured a unit that pneumatically activated a pair of mechanical fuel and nitrous valves - I was told it was outdated and a useless option even then, because electically activated solenoids were the future.
Here's a pic of my original version




Today in the USA a product based on the EXACT same principles as my ORIGINAL (side by side valves), is the latest and greatest new idea from Combo-Flo. Despite the fact that this latest product doesn't come close to the final design of the valve I last manufactured some 15 to 20 years ago (that was based on the same principle but a vastly superior design and a quantum step forward), some people fail to appreciate the Combo-flo valve is a backward step not a step forward.

and here's a pic of theirs



After extensive R&D work my original side by side design ended up as my Duo-noid (a pilot solenoid activated a piston which activated a fuel valve stacked on top of the nitrous valve, all in one unit), which had numerous safety advantages over the side by side concept.
Since the solenoid was only a 'pilot' it did not need to flow a great deal and therefore was only a low current draw of approx. 1 Amp. This unit did not need a pneumatic supply as it used the nitrous to activate it and was capable of flowing in the region of 1,000 hp of both fuel and nitrous through a single unit.

Here's a pic of my last version




For over 15 years I've been criticised for using billet alloy instead of stainless steel for my solenoid bodies but now the latest greatest solenoids from NX are machined from alloy - in part at least.

http://www.noswizard.com/product_desc.php?id=6

And theirs




We're way out in front on concept and design already but we're not done yet and our future developments will put us even further in front of the pack.

I wouldn't compare yourself to much to the others as even though VERY basic principles may be similiar your current designs are much better. The speedtech fittings are terrible and I have even looked into push style fittings over here as you are aware of but they don't come close to the cleaner INNER flow path that the nuts and olives provide along with less bulkiness. Unless of course you can manufacture your own but any off the shelf components just won't do in my opinion.

Keep in mind Trev that you trained me so be prepared for dealing with the opinionated mind that I already have and the criticism if I see you vear from what I think is right and wrong now based on what I learned from you.

Denny,

With regard to the push fittings, as you'd expect, I did go one step better than anyone else by making my own fittings, here is a prototype of my radial discharge block with integral push fittings.

The part at the side is the cap from a soft drinks bottle to give everyone an idea of how small it is.
The final production item may be about 10% bigger but still very small and not a sign of a bulky add on component.

The fitting you made is fine. I was not sure if you were going to incorporate fittings or have add-ons which would look like crap and perform like crap.

Let's get these things rolling as they would be a huge bonus for ease of install, less parts needed, and a cleaner look.

You can be sure that whatever I manufacture it will be the best that's possible.

I don't know if this is a good thing as the competition is closing the gap on their faults.

I have to wonder if NX borrowed many ideas from you when you shared so much information with them years ago?

Don't worry about them closing the gap Denny as there's going to be a huge cavern between my systems and the rest when I launch my Smooooth system in a couple of months time. ;-)

I'm not saying anyone is copying my ideas but if they are and it's taken this long to copy my alloy solenoid bodies, then it'll be at least another decade before they manage to copy the Smooooth system.

The more people that either use the same principles or copy them (whichever the case), the more it validates my concepts & principles.

The good thing about "every" aspect of my systems being different and the fact that so many people have criticised me for it, is that there is no doubt about who did it all first. However on another forum some guy seems to think that it doesn't matter who did it first, mind you he also thinks Darwin is wrong and that the Earth is only 5,000 years old!!!!

A funy thing happened to me while I was at the St louis race track, I had a brief encounter with Mike Woods, the President of NX.

There I was with my new Pro Mod customer when who should walk up and start trying to sell his bottle valves and alloy solenoids but Mike Woods himself.
Now although I did business with him for a couple of years, I never met him before, so he had no idea who I was or what I was doing with the guy he was speaking to.
Against everything inside me I stood and just listened to all he had to say about his new alloy valves.

Guess what, ALL the claims he was making for their new alloy solenoids were word for word what I've been proclaiming are the benefits of my Pulsoids for the last 10 to 15 years.
Furthermore it seems the ones we have pictured above are either a budget version or prototypes, as the current units they are selling feature more of the advantages my Pulsoids offer (BUT not all of them). These don't have the torturous flow path that generic solenoids have, as they have copied my entry location and this has also reduced the volume of their plunger chamber. I'll be having Denny get me a sample so I can see exactly what they have copied and what they've missed, so watch out for future posts.

He then went on about his new bottle valves and siphon tubes and to say he'd got it wrong about the tube would be a major understatement.

He also described his nitrogen push system which was also junk as it relied on a regulator, which anyone who has any experience of such items will know, are unreliable and unpredictable. He also had trouble justify the crude connection method they use which means that when the 2 are disconnected, all the remaining contents of the nitrous bottle are lost - unlike with our system.

If only he had known who he was mouthing off to (it was a devil of a job to refrain from sinking him with all his bullshit), but I had to keep my identity secret at that time (for my Pro Mod customer) and anyway I had a serious laugh about it all afterwards.

I reckon it's taken them approx. 3 years to get a HALF copy of my Pulsoids on the market, so I wonder how much longer it will take them to produce a copy of my new Smooooth system?

How ever long it takes, it will be too long, because just as they launch their replica Pulsoids I'm launching my Smooooth system and that's how it will always be, when a company relies on copying another companies products, they'll always be at least one step behind.